Who Took the Boys Out of Boy Scouts?

Here’s a candid telling of how girls, then homosexuality, were brokered into the UK’s Boy Scouts over a forty year period.

The U.S. is well down this path.

You’ll notice the exact words, rationale, and Soviet-style sex integration objective. Boy Scouts = Young Pioneers in every meaningful sense.

Oh and BSA Inc wanted to rename itself “Scouting” in the 1970s when it tried — and failed — this exact program the first time.

Logo for “Scouting/USA” the original attempt at unisex, de-Americanized Boy Scouting.

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Who Took the Boy Out of Boy Scouts?

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Scouting is one of the world’s most successful men’s movements. So how did it become a feminist movement in the UK that excludes male leadership and bans boy-only groups? 

I’ve often wondered if my interest in gender started in the Scouting movement—it’s where I discovered cross-dressing, had my first kiss and learnt how to start fires.

My mum used to take me on camping trips with the Brownie Guides (for girls aged 7 to 10), where I got to hold hands with one of the girls and experienced my first kiss through the strings of a wooden tennis racket.

I progressed to the Cub Scouts—for boys aged 8 to 11—and took part in an annual “Gang Show” that mostly involved singing, dancing and cross-dressing for the amusement of audiences filled with old ladies.

I’m not sure if my experience was what Lord Robert Baden-Powell (BP) had intended for boys when he formed the Scouting movement—and I‘m interested to know what he would make of the Boy Scouts of America’s ongoing refusal to include gay men—a question made more curious by speculation that BP was a repressed homosexual.

As far as Europe is concerned, we don’t seem to have an issue with gay Scouting—it’s guy-only Scouting we don’t like.

Being “an out Scout” is accepted in the UK, where a dedicated fellowship of Scouts actively supports the recruitment, retention and ongoing support of LGBT adults.

In the country where Scouting began, we’re so progressive that we’ve taken the “boy” out of Boy Scouts and converted the Girl Guides to feminism. So how did that journey happen?

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The worldwide Scouting and Guiding movement now has more than 40 million members and attracts more nations to its global “Jamborees” than the Summer Olympics—and it all began in 1907 with Baden-Powell running a camp for 20 boys on Brownsea Island near Poole in England.

BP was a celebrated war hero and his ‘Scouting for Boys’ book inspired boys (and some girls) across the country to set up their own Scouting groups.

By 1909 11,000 scouts attended a national rally at Crystal Palace and according to the Girl Guiding UK website:

“Several girls demanded a place for girls at the Crystal Palace Boy Scout Rally. They were the very first advocates of the Movement—speaking out and challenging the norms and gender conventions of the time.”

The following year the Girl Guides was formed as a separate body by BP’s sister Agnes, giving girls equal but different access to the Scouting movement. It was another 18 years before all women in the country were given an equal right to vote.

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So how did this global Scouting craze that provided parallel movements for boys and girls from its earliest days, end up banning male-only groups and embracing feminism? It seems that the parallel movements have gone on two very different journeys.

After re-directing the first wave of enthusiastic women and girls into their own movement, women also began to enter the Boy Scouts movement as leaders and helpers, particularly during the World Wars when male volunteers were in short supply.

Scouting continued in this way until 1966 when the Chief Scout’s Advance Party Report kick-started a 40-year process that led to the end of boy-only scout groups in the UK and beyond.

The first step was a name change from “Boy Scouts” to simply “Scouts”. Girls were admitted to the Venture Scout movement for older teenagers from 1976 and after an on-off debate that lasted until 1990, Scouting in the UK decided to admit girls of all ages.

The change was optional at first and the final move from “you can involve girls” to “you will involve girls” happened in 2007.

Scouting in the UK now has around 500,000 members and about a quarter of them are women and girls. The Guiding movement is a similar size and almost exclusively female.

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I spent a fascinating hour chatting with Simon Carter, a volunteer Scouting Manger in Hertfordshire whose wife runs a Scout Troop locally.

Their commitment to youth work is inspiring and Simon paints a compelling picture of a diverse, inclusive movement that is working to reflect society in its membership at every level and every age group.

When you talk to the Scouts, you don’t get any impression of a movement that’s consciously doing gender.

“We’ve reached a tipping point in the movement where it’s less about gender and more about leadership and inspiring people,” he told me.

The Scout movement that Simon Carter describes is about providing young people with adventures that can help to produce good citizens, boys and girls, who grow up to be part of a society where men and women work together effectively.

READ MORE AT THE GOOD MEN PROJECT

Flashback: Gates, Gays, and the Boy Scouts

from National Review
by Kevin D. Williamson 
May 24, 2015 1:45 PM
@kevinNR

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Would you trust this man with your sons? Your daughters?

The soul of a bureaucrat

Robert Gates has long been surrounded by men in uniform, first as secretary of defense, now as president of the Boy Scouts of America. His time at DoD coincided with the repeal of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on homosexual soldiers — a repeal effectively imposed by the courts — and as the leader of the Boy Scouts he is calling for a repeal of that organization’s policy banning homosexual adults from serving as troop leaders or in other leadership roles.

Gates, whose likeness appears in Webster’s with the entry for “bureaucrat,” says that the Boy Scouts’ policy on homosexuals is “unsustainable.” He warns that attempting to maintain it would mean “the end of us as a national movement.” This sentiment expresses a great deal of what is wrong with the leadership culture of the United States.

Read more at: NR: Gates, Gays, and the Boy Scouts

BSA’s Surbaugh: Cuck or Conspirator?

Is BSA Corp CEO Surbaugh a cuck or a conspirator?

The Jan 2018 edition of Scouting magazine quotes the hapless BSA Corp CEO Mike Surbaugh in an article by head cheerleader Bryan Wendell:

Admitting girls into Scout units, says Surbaugh

. . . is widespread and it’s been going on for a very long time.

Naturally, the Official Boy Scout response to violation of the Oath is to capitulate, to endorse the lawless rule-breaking of “rogue packs” and in the process, tell every boy brave enough to associate with Scouting he is somehow defective, part of the evil curse of America’s scourge of toxic masculinity.


cuck noun: 

1 US informal A weak or servile man (often used as a contemptuous term for a man with moderate or progressive political views). 

2 A man whose wife is sexually unfaithful; a cuckold.

Origin: Early 18th century: abbreviation of cuckold; cuck (sense 1) dates from the early 21st century.


Surbaugh then reassures sexually repressed fathers and their insecure sons they will be tolerated, at least for the present.

If you’ve got a pack that has all boys in it and you want to keep doing this, we celebrate it and we love it. We think it’s fantastic.”

That’s really White of you, Michael. Really. It is.

Words Have Meaning

This would not be possible except BSA Corp helpfully revised the Scout Law as part of  Improved Scouting:

A Scout is Trustworthy.  A Scout’s honor is to be trusted.  If he were to violate his honor by telling a lie or by cheating or by not doing exactly a given task, when trusted on his honor, he may be directed to hand over his Scout Badge.

— “Handbook for Boys” (1911 — 1959) Earnest Seton, editor, also
— “Boy Scout Handbook” (1960 — 1972) William Hillcourt, editor

was changed in 1972 to be more . . . umm . . . flexible, with a built-in “out” — no need to hand over his badge for deliberate moral failure:

TRUSTWORTHY. A Scout tells the truth. He keeps his promises. Honesty is part of his code of conduct. People can depend on him.

— “Boy Scout Handbook” (1972 — 1979) simulacrum edition by Frederick L. Hines

Improved Scouting Redux — Because It Didn’t Work the First Time

The clueless editorial board had the audacity to publish, in an amazing display of ignorance or hubris or worse, a glowing hagiography of Green Bar Bill Hillcourt.


conspirator noun:

a person who takes part in a conspiracy; plotter.
Origin [1375–1425; late Middle English < Anglo-French < Medieval Latin] 

Those of us old enough to remember the disaster that was “Improved Scouting” know it was Hillcourt who single-handedly resuscitated BSA after its nearly successful suicide. Of course, BSA Inc was never the same despite his heroic effort.

Galactica Super Scouts
Galactica’s unisex scout troop was in the best example of Women’s Lib. What PYT can resist a strawberry beret?

“Improved Scouting” effeminized and de-masculinized Boy Scouting. It also marked the formal effort to “broker in” females to Boy Scouting just as the apostate Episcopal church did at approximately the same time.

Oh and in case you are wondering, the Episcopal church is all but dead.  It seems embracing feminism, homosexuality, and the Other while expelling masculinity, Holy Matrimony and their Anglo-Saxon customer base is bad for business. Worse for the church business is rejecting the actual teaching of Jesus Christ.

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The future of the BSA Inc is carved in stone.

As it happens, BSA Corp membership peaked in 1972, the year Improved Scouting was introduced, at 6,500,000 boys.

By 1980, it was 4,300,000 boys, a 34% decline in eight years.

Today, BSA Corp counts a measly 2,400,000 kids despite kicking its core White suburban kids in the teeth. Have you read anything published by BSA in the past decade? It’s embarassing, how they chase after Hispanic, African-American, homosexual, and now feminist members that never show up for the date.

9/10 of red blooded, all-American boyhood wants nothing to do with Boy Scouting. It’s is no wonder, really. Scouting stopped being manly decades ago. The current BSA “Scout Handbook” mocks every Boy Scout ever to swear his oath to the Scout Law.

BSA Decline
BSA membership has decayed under the influence of feminism, gender-queer, and unpatriotic leadership desperate for paying customers and social “relevance.”

BSA membership perfectly tracks major American social trends. Notice the inverse correlation of feminism and LGBT acceptance, which is mirrored by really awful BSA Inc policy decisions and gender-neutral, emasculated language in Scout Books. Also, official patriotic recognition diminishes steady during periods of decay as confirmed in most recent Handbook. Of particular interest, both previous efforts to effeminize Scouting, 1972’s “Improved” Scouting Plan and 1998’s “Family Cub Scout Camping” backfired dramatically. Boy Scouting is for Boys. Period.

Cuck or Conspirator?

Is clueless Michael Surbaugh an idiotic cuck who actually believes the Left will love him by destroying the last remaining traditional American institution?

Or is he a willing conspirator, destroying an effective institution that still, despite fifty years of subversive sabotage, manages to transmit the traditional American culture to our sons?

Read his biography. Read his speeches. Watch his videos. If you can stomach it, read what passes for ‘handbooks” and other literature out of Surbaugh’s BSA.

When you’re done, you tell me. Is Surbaugh a cuck? Or is he a conspirator?

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Van Gogh, “Man in a Red Beret” 1888

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Girl Guides: grown males to sleep with their girls?

From Eowyn at the superb Fellowship of the Minds blog comes this lunacy from mother England.

Madness: British girl scouts to allow adult ‘transgenders’ share toilets & beds with girls

In the UK, girl scouts are called Girl Guides or GirlGuiding— a 107-year-old organization founded in 1910, with a total membership of 553,633 in 2013.

The Girl Guides recently updated its rules that are a boon for pedophiles.

According to the new rules, male-to-female (MtF) “transgenders” will be allowed to share toilets, changing rooms and beds with girls. Since Girl Guides members are aged 5 to 25, that means adult biological men will share toilets, changing rooms and beds with little girls.

The Telegraph reports, November 26, 2017, that the new guidelines, published on the Girl Guides’ website, say that because “the use of gendered facilities,” including showers, toilets and changing rooms, “can cause anxiety . . . members are allowed to use the facilities of the gender they self-identify as.” That is because “girl” is “based on gender identity. This means that any child who self-identifies as a girl should feel safe and welcome in our girl-only space regardless of the sex that they were assigned at birth.”

Girl Guides’ CEO Julie Bentley said the organization follows the requirements set out in the UK’s Equality Act 2010, which states that organizations providing single-sex services must treat people according to their acquired gender, and allow people to legally challenge their gender without facing “demeaning” rules that force them to undergo a formal medical diagnosis.

Bentley said:

“In line with our values of inclusion, we welcome any young person who self-identifies as a girl or young woman. If a young person doesn’t feel comfortable sharing accommodation, for whatever reason, we encourage them to talk to their leader about alternative accommodation and facilities.”

There are concerns, however, that sharing accommodation and personal facilities will threaten the safety and privacy of girls, especially as.

The guidance states that it is not “best practice” to inform parents that a trans person will be attending a residential event, and so parents of younger Girl Guides members would not be automatically told if their daughter will be sharing facilities with people “who self-identify as girls” — that is, with biological males who claim to be females.

David Davies, Conservative MP for Monmouth in South Wales, told The Mail: “If transgender girls who are physically male are going to be sharing facilities, it’s going to make some girls threatened and uncomfortable and the Guides shouldn’t be doing that.”

It is not known how many “transgender” members are in the Girl Guides.

~Eowyn

Comparison of the 1911 and Centennial editions of Boy Scout Handbooks

Scouting Then and Now.
The Boy Scouts of America: Then and Now — A Comparison of the 1911 and Modern Handbooks and Merit Badges

I stumbled on this today looking for material to train our Webelos scouts for their Arrow of Light award.  The present handbooks are simply awful — the Soviets wrote more inspiring manufacturing reports, translated into English than the soul-killing, mind-numbing awful that is the Boy Scout Handbook series today.

The Art of Manliness blog — one of our favorites! — took a close look at the Centennial edition of the BSA Handbook and compared it to the classic original. This portion was largely inspired by a 2013 Clairmont Institute essay by Kathleen Arnn.

The Boy Scouts of America: Then and Now — A Comparison of the 1911 and Modern Handbooks and Merit Badges

 

What has been dropped or reduced in the modern handbook is telling. Gone is the section on chivalry, which traced the Boy Scouts’ heritage back through the pioneers and Pilgrims, and to the knights of the Middle Ages. While the 1911 handbook has a lengthy chapter on Patriotism and Citizenship (including a letter from Theodore Roosevelt on “Practical Citizenship”), which outlines the history of the United States, the meaning of the flag, and the purpose of various governmental bodies, the modern handbook has greatly shrunk the discussion of such things in both length and detail. The original is also generously peppered with references to great men in history for young boys to emulate, while the mention of such “heroes” is almost entirely absent from the one published in 2009 (being inspired by history isn’t much in fashion these days).

Perhaps most striking is the different way in which the two guides address the idea of good character. The original didn’t shy away from strong admonitions like, “It is horrible to be a coward. It is weak to yield to fear and heroic to face danger without flinching,” and “The honor of a scout will not permit of anything but the highest and the best and the manliest. The honor of a scout is a sacred thing, and cannot be lightly set aside or trampled on.”

vintage illustration from boy scouts handbook helping old lady

In contrast, the modern version frames its discussion of character in terms of its inoffensive modern equivalent: leadership and personal development. Instead of being couched in the absolute language of moral virtue, doing the right thing becomes a matter or “making the most of yourself” and “getting along with others.”

Arnn’s original essay — well worth the five minutes it takes to read completely — may be found here. Perhaps we shall post on it later.

AOM’s contribution was to compare merit badges from 1910 to merit badges of 2010. As there are a number of badges that survived the century, this was a straight forward task. The results are a side by side set of graphics with the requirements of each.

what stands out for all the modern badges is how much longer and more involved the guidelines are today than they used to be. In the 1911 handbook, earning each badge involved the completion of a short list of one-sentence requirements. Modern badge requirements, on the other hand, run to as many as ten paragraph-long sections, the first of which is always a discussion of the need to discuss safety considerations with one’s leader. The gardening badge for example, requires the Scout to discuss with his counselor what hazards he might encounter if he happened to unfortunately plant his tomatoes near a beehive.

All old time Scouts see this. The result is that Scouting is perhaps more boring even than school, so the handbooks become expensive bricks, heeded mainly in the breech.

Why? Observe:

Camping

Camping is the activity for which the Boy Scouts are best known. In comparing the original camping merit badge to today’s, one can see how the hands-on requirements have been loosened; for example, Scouts formerly had to sleep out for 50 nights, know how to build a fire without matches, and construct a raft. On the flip side, the modern badge has decreased that requirement to 20 nights, and has greatly expanded the more mental requirements — making checklists, creating plans, and describing different camping guidelines and pieces of equipment.

boy scouts camping badge requirements 1911 versus 2012

Perhaps the most compelling contrast is found in the Inventions merit badge:

boy scouts inventing badge requirements 1911 versus 2012

Yes, you read that correctly.  Our boys were expected to invent something and patent it.

Arnn captured the cucking self-abnegation of BSA honchos since the Improved Scouting Program nearly destroyed it in the 1970s.  Here is an extended quote:

Today, there is a different approach to leadership: “success begins with a vision—picturing yourself where you want to be.” And because anyone can have a vision, anyone can be a leader. “You are a collection of wonderful talents, ideas, and experiences,” the new handbook’s Leadership chapter begins. “What do you want your future to look like tomorrow?”

The old handbook spoke proudly of the chivalric tradition; the new apologizes for the antiquated example of the knights. It sandwiches a few cursory paragraphs on moral virtue between a lengthy discussion of drugs and alcohol and a section on sexual responsibility. Moral choices are reduced to healthy choices. Doing the courageous thing becomes equivalent to refusing a cigarette at a party.

Instead of an exciting chapter on Patriotism and Citizenship, the handbook now offers a perfunctory discussion, re-titled just “Citizenship.” In the new handbook Scouts are citizens of their country, but also of the world. There are the same detailed instructions for folding and flying the flag, but the accompanying history lesson has been shortened and stripped of its vividness. There are, by my count, four heroes in the book. They are the founders of Scouting: British founder Robert Baden Powell, the naturalist Ernest Thompson Seton, outdoorsman Daniel Carter Beard, and James E. West, who led the BSA through its first 30 years. Each gets a sentence and a picture. American heroes, so numerous and colorful in the original handbook, are almost absent. Washington and Lincoln are each mentioned one time. Here is their sentence: “We remember the sacrifices and achievements of Americans with federal holidays, including observances of the birthdays of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.”

BSA was and remains a hollow shell of its formerly unquestioned status as the premiere training ground for our sons. Pandering to POCs became its own priority, even to the neglect and insult their core audience.  Membership is in free fall because BSA doesn’t want white boys.  They don’t want patriots or Christian believers.  They want your money and are willing to extract it from you by the extortion of your sons.

What would the knights of old do?